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		<title>By: Evis</title>
		<link>http://secretlifeoffrance.com/2009/06/26/learning-curve/#comment-273</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lucy, I don&#039;t normally blog but I do sometimes google people that have impressed me. So I just discovered that the book I just finished has its own blog. 

I bought The Secret Life of France, hoping that I will learn more about France, after a great review in the Independent. 

In the end, I think I actually learnt more about myself, in England, than about France.

I have lived here for almost 10 years, and I came here when I was 19, from Albania, to join my English boyfriend to whom I am now married. 

It was interesting to realise that I am immersed in this  English way of living, working and thinking and how different I would be now, had I lived elsewhere. 

There were many things that I have now embraced, that I hated in the beginning. One of these (same as your daughter) not being noticed in the tube or anywhere, quite different from my experience back home, or in Italy. I realise now, that it&#039;s a small price to pay for feeling free to be yourself, in the most crowdest and uncomfortable places such as the tube in rush hour. 

Anyway, I&#039;m glad I read the books section on the Independent and got to read your book. A great insight into the way we live and how the past influences us today and the generations to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lucy, I don&#8217;t normally blog but I do sometimes google people that have impressed me. So I just discovered that the book I just finished has its own blog. </p>
<p>I bought The Secret Life of France, hoping that I will learn more about France, after a great review in the Independent. </p>
<p>In the end, I think I actually learnt more about myself, in England, than about France.</p>
<p>I have lived here for almost 10 years, and I came here when I was 19, from Albania, to join my English boyfriend to whom I am now married. </p>
<p>It was interesting to realise that I am immersed in this  English way of living, working and thinking and how different I would be now, had I lived elsewhere. </p>
<p>There were many things that I have now embraced, that I hated in the beginning. One of these (same as your daughter) not being noticed in the tube or anywhere, quite different from my experience back home, or in Italy. I realise now, that it&#8217;s a small price to pay for feeling free to be yourself, in the most crowdest and uncomfortable places such as the tube in rush hour. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad I read the books section on the Independent and got to read your book. A great insight into the way we live and how the past influences us today and the generations to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy Wadham</title>
		<link>http://secretlifeoffrance.com/2009/06/26/learning-curve/#comment-248</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles. Ever thought of blogging? You&#039;d be very good at it. Your insights - into both France and England - have an uncanny undeniability about them. LW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles. Ever thought of blogging? You&#8217;d be very good at it. Your insights &#8211; into both France and England &#8211; have an uncanny undeniability about them. LW.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Miller</title>
		<link>http://secretlifeoffrance.com/2009/06/26/learning-curve/#comment-244</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was on The Sunday Times we used to call it &quot;filleting&#039; the book - the butchery metaphor an apt one. As for &#039;serious&#039; newspapers - well, I&#039;d never taken you for a naïf.  Nevertheless, I hope you got some big cheques.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was on The Sunday Times we used to call it &#8220;filleting&#8217; the book &#8211; the butchery metaphor an apt one. As for &#8216;serious&#8217; newspapers &#8211; well, I&#8217;d never taken you for a naïf.  Nevertheless, I hope you got some big cheques.</p>
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		<title>By: JChevais</title>
		<link>http://secretlifeoffrance.com/2009/06/26/learning-curve/#comment-243</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, maybe you did write it and now I&#039;ve just put my foot in it.  To explain, I was surprised by the sweeping generalisations.  It just didn&#039;t seem like your style (ie, the kind of writing that I find here).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, maybe you did write it and now I&#8217;ve just put my foot in it.  To explain, I was surprised by the sweeping generalisations.  It just didn&#8217;t seem like your style (ie, the kind of writing that I find here).</p>
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		<title>By: JChevais</title>
		<link>http://secretlifeoffrance.com/2009/06/26/learning-curve/#comment-242</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes! I read the Mail article and was surprised that &quot;you&quot; had written it.   And now I find that you didn&#039;t.  I sort of feel relieved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! I read the Mail article and was surprised that &#8220;you&#8221; had written it.   And now I find that you didn&#8217;t.  I sort of feel relieved.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://secretlifeoffrance.com/2009/06/26/learning-curve/#comment-241</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I suggest, Lucy, that British newspapers of the ‘serious’ sort are anything but... serious, that is? Two at least have few ‘hang-ups’ about getting down and dirty to boost circulation. The one worthy ‘heavy’ (as in ‘heavy-going’) is also known as ‘The Indescribablyboring’. It loses money. And is invariably the newspaper left unsold, a kind of well-bred ‘wallflower’. But am I alone in finding many French papers as tendentious as they are tedious? Fact-‘lite’ and information-thin? As well as heavy-going in a way that makes &#039;The Independent&#039; look positively frisky? 

In what one hopes will be your next book in France, could you perhaps delve deeper into this: the well-developed ability of the French to endure, without complaint, levels of boredom, which would drive your average Brit to distraction? Examples: TV, road-works, school, discussions, meals, strikes, family reunions, ‘la famille, tout court’.... What a contrast with the pathetic eagerness to be first up into the bus or train, though the saving in time is tiny. 
‘Ah, but it is our Latin temperament!’ – No way, José! 

Few North Europeans are so serious-minded as the French. But then Franks.... French. Ethnically speaking... Do I have to spell it out? The French are Germans with ‘charme’. There, that should do it! How to upset everyone...

I read the extract from your book and failed to notice much heavy-duty stitching. As for ‘the guiltless nature of the incident for all the people involved’..., well I have difficulty in picturing this. You could put it down to my incurable provincialism. Old age? I can’t help but see adultery as a dreadfully oafish activity, particularly so when the adultery is acted out before friends. Elsewhere, you dwell on the uncomplicated way the French go about their pleasure-seeking, and go so far as to suggest that France’s ‘poor war effort’ could be ascribed to a kind of pleasure-dependency. I wonder.

A few days ago, travelling by train to London, I noticed a young French couple nearby. The male looked sleepily Byronic and post-tumescent, one foot on the seat opposite, the other perched on top of the waste-bin. The she was tastefully draped around him, and would stroke his cheek with finger-tips, every few seconds, while he moodily surveyed the passing landscape. What I’m getting at is this: the pleasure-principle this most emphatically was not! Whatever pleasure there was, was being savoured so artistically, so tastefully, so self-consciously.... that it was more a calling, vocational than fun. Just like Jean-Paul Sartre’s café waiter. This was as un-spontaneous as you can get. But just try telling the French they’re not spontaneous! 

I wouldn’t bother about the lack of respect shown by the ‘Sunday Times’. I believe this particular wedge reaches 1.4 million breakfast tables, and that’s not to be sniffed at. Besides, think of the timing, just before the reviews come along, and the book-buying public buys her(?) holiday reading. The other paper sounds dead cheeky, though. The ‘house style’, fiddlesticks!

Yes the British press is a censorious, prurient, old whore. But unlike your own – ‘and don’t sneak away, ‘l’Huma’ or ‘Libé’, come back, this concerns you too!’ – she’s a freelance, not a kept ‘floosie’. Unless, that is, you can indicate an un-supported, un-subsidized, un-cowed French title... I expect to win few ‘brownie points’ for confessing this, but I find ‘Le Figaro’ more reader-friendly, less opaque than most. Whatever the politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I suggest, Lucy, that British newspapers of the ‘serious’ sort are anything but&#8230; serious, that is? Two at least have few ‘hang-ups’ about getting down and dirty to boost circulation. The one worthy ‘heavy’ (as in ‘heavy-going’) is also known as ‘The Indescribablyboring’. It loses money. And is invariably the newspaper left unsold, a kind of well-bred ‘wallflower’. But am I alone in finding many French papers as tendentious as they are tedious? Fact-‘lite’ and information-thin? As well as heavy-going in a way that makes &#8216;The Independent&#8217; look positively frisky? </p>
<p>In what one hopes will be your next book in France, could you perhaps delve deeper into this: the well-developed ability of the French to endure, without complaint, levels of boredom, which would drive your average Brit to distraction? Examples: TV, road-works, school, discussions, meals, strikes, family reunions, ‘la famille, tout court’&#8230;. What a contrast with the pathetic eagerness to be first up into the bus or train, though the saving in time is tiny.<br />
‘Ah, but it is our Latin temperament!’ – No way, José! </p>
<p>Few North Europeans are so serious-minded as the French. But then Franks&#8230;. French. Ethnically speaking&#8230; Do I have to spell it out? The French are Germans with ‘charme’. There, that should do it! How to upset everyone&#8230;</p>
<p>I read the extract from your book and failed to notice much heavy-duty stitching. As for ‘the guiltless nature of the incident for all the people involved’&#8230;, well I have difficulty in picturing this. You could put it down to my incurable provincialism. Old age? I can’t help but see adultery as a dreadfully oafish activity, particularly so when the adultery is acted out before friends. Elsewhere, you dwell on the uncomplicated way the French go about their pleasure-seeking, and go so far as to suggest that France’s ‘poor war effort’ could be ascribed to a kind of pleasure-dependency. I wonder.</p>
<p>A few days ago, travelling by train to London, I noticed a young French couple nearby. The male looked sleepily Byronic and post-tumescent, one foot on the seat opposite, the other perched on top of the waste-bin. The she was tastefully draped around him, and would stroke his cheek with finger-tips, every few seconds, while he moodily surveyed the passing landscape. What I’m getting at is this: the pleasure-principle this most emphatically was not! Whatever pleasure there was, was being savoured so artistically, so tastefully, so self-consciously&#8230;. that it was more a calling, vocational than fun. Just like Jean-Paul Sartre’s café waiter. This was as un-spontaneous as you can get. But just try telling the French they’re not spontaneous! </p>
<p>I wouldn’t bother about the lack of respect shown by the ‘Sunday Times’. I believe this particular wedge reaches 1.4 million breakfast tables, and that’s not to be sniffed at. Besides, think of the timing, just before the reviews come along, and the book-buying public buys her(?) holiday reading. The other paper sounds dead cheeky, though. The ‘house style’, fiddlesticks!</p>
<p>Yes the British press is a censorious, prurient, old whore. But unlike your own – ‘and don’t sneak away, ‘l’Huma’ or ‘Libé’, come back, this concerns you too!’ – she’s a freelance, not a kept ‘floosie’. Unless, that is, you can indicate an un-supported, un-subsidized, un-cowed French title&#8230; I expect to win few ‘brownie points’ for confessing this, but I find ‘Le Figaro’ more reader-friendly, less opaque than most. Whatever the politics.</p>
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